with RL-33 = 93.5 gr. While there are now more powerful .30 caliber magnums, the time-tested .300 Weatherby will likely outlast them. at Web = .544″ 300 Win Case head to bottom of shoulder = 2.202″ 30 Nos. Hornady = 97 gr. However, the power and reach come at a price: vicious recoil. Who would waste the accuracy and case capacity of seating to magazine length that short? The 30 Nosler is still too new to predict if it will stay on the market for long. Bottom line: the .26 Nosler … and large game (1500 ft-lbs), and the minimum velocity most hunting bullets require for reliable expansion (1800 fps). This is the usable volume for powder. All calculations were based on the heaviest Nosler AccuBond™ bullet available in factory loaded ammunition for each caliber, unless otherwise noted. With a 200 grain bullet, it likely would have scored equal to or below the .300 Weatherby. It is capable of phenomenal accuracy even with the traditional free bore. Your maximum mpbr are just a bit off particularly for the 300 WBY. The average hovering between 33 and 35 pounds. 30 Caliber Reloading Components. by 13 percent and the Win. Nosler has just introduced a new SAAMI-spec .338-caliber cartridge, the 33 Nosler, which is based on the 404 Jeffrey parent case. No one yet offers this cartridge loaded with 200 grain AccuBonds. Any RUM or 300 Weatherby magazine box is perfect for xx-Nosler run out to more optimal seating depths. 200 gr. Go Here to Discuss this article or ask questions. As a matter of mirror … Survival. case OAL = 2.544″, 300 Win at Web = .506″ I am at a loss as to what I will do for a Current build. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. In conclusion here are my thoughts. Mag. My gut tells me with a 28″ barrel they both will come in in the 3000 to 3050 fps range at 4000′ asl. One point for every 25 yards beyond 200 yards for minimum expansion velocity, one point deducted for every 25 yards less. With today's support of available range finder, Kestrels and other instruments to calculate dope beyond standard ranges, any will do. 30 Nos. 200 gr. For brass the WM has Win brass which is really good and not too expensive and also Hornady, Norma, Nosler, and Remington. The RUM has Rem brass which is ok. Never been a fan of Rem brass. I see the 30 Nosler much like the WSM calibers. To top it off a high grade mk 5 in grade walnut is like artwork and a pleasure to behold. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. Latest. However, that extra length, combined with the fact that the cartridge has a .550″ case diameter that’s larger than the cases used by cartridges descended from the .375 H&H (.513″), means the .300 RUM has a gigantic case capacity. These cartridges are also best when paired with the heaviest bullet weights. Both BC and sectional density (SD) are noted for each bullet tested. blog) by 20 percent. Likewise the .300 Winchester Magnum. 30-378 Wby vs 300 RUM. The less recoil, the more accurate the shooter, and hence, the more effective the cartridge. I took rough measurements of both the 300 Win Mag and the 30 Nosler with the very popular 215 Berger hybrid. moose where it was. If the minimum energy range exceeds the minimum expansion range, the minimum expansion range becomes the maximum effective range since unexpanded bullets are much less effective regardless how much energy they possess. Here’s how each cartridge ranked. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure (29.92 inHg/1013 mbar) at sea level. The .300 Win. The AccuBond™ is a good all-round hunting bullet with high ballistic coefficients (BCs) and terminal performance similar to the time-tested Nosler Partition™. The xx-Nosler is designed to fit in to a 3.340 magazine with recommended seating depths. Consult a loading manual for starting charges and work up safely.!!! Nosler® Brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. The .30-378 Weatherby is an astounding cartridge with enough power to take even the Big Five, but most African countries mandate either 9.3mm or .375 caliber as the minimum for dangerous game hunting. Mag's okay but for long range precision I'm not a huge fan of belted cases, I know you can headspace off the shoulder and all but I'm still not a fan of belts or long actions. Several noted gun writers have said this is the harshest recoiling cartridge they’ve ever fired. AccuBond at 2800 fps. The shorter neck of the 300 win has never been an issue either, but if you prefer a longer neck the 30 Nos. Whats more American than apple pie and baseball? The undisputed most powerful .30 caliber magnum in the world. Brass quality and hardness will shadow true results as well. Bullet technology at the time could not match this Weatherby’s high velocities and many projectiles often failed when they hit large animals at close range. Good realistic article. 30 caliber. capacity 300 Win OAL (case head to bullet tip) = 3.690″ on our Right. Hope this helps some that want to compare these two great choices for a 30 cal. shoots flat, hits hard, fits in standard length actions, has tolerable recoil, and is available even in remote areas. The RUM would push the 240s faster but I would probably use the 208/210 gran bullets. 300 NM data isn't as plentiful as 338 LM, but still a lot more than 300 Nosler or 300 RUM. Just a year or so ago I wrote that the 30 Nosler was arguably the single best-designed .30-caliber magnum in existence. 300 Win Dry case w/ primer = 221.7 gr A 300 Win Mag will do very well for almost all applications. Filed Under: Precision Hand Loading Tools, Precision Handloading "How To" Tagged With: 30 Nosler, 300 win mag, Berger Bullets, ELR, Extreme Long Range, hand loading, hunting, long range, long range only, precision, rifle throat. get the nod here. However, readers must be aware, this projectile does lose a lot of weight during penetration and is not as tough as the likes of the 200 grain Woodleigh or A-Frame designs. AccuBond at 2950 fps. Always consult with the bullet or ammunition manufacturer as to your needs before you take it on a hunt. Add in the fact they use easy to find .308 inch diameter bullets and you have some real winners. AccuBond at 3100 fps. with H2O = 87.5 gr 1.8 gr advantage, 300 win with H-1000 = 87.5 gr capacity magnums make bigger holes in critters than their smaller bore rivals such as the 7mm Remington Magnum and punish the shooter with less recoil than the big bores such as the .338 Lapua. I plan to further research the quality and hardness of the available brass for the 30 Nosler. Likewise the standard length .308 Norma magnum. The old 7mm Rem. at Web = .544″, 300 Win Case head to bottom of shoulder = 2.202″ Besides, with its smooth, almost rocket-like contours and British Empire pedigree, who wouldn’t feel a warm, nostalgic glow taking one into the field with it housed in a pre-64 Winchester Model 70 or Rigby built Mauser? 28 Nosler (1) 300 AAC Blk (2) 308 Win (1) 30-06 Sprg (1) 300 SAUM (1) 300 H&H (2) 300 WSM (2) 300 Win Mag (1) 300 Wby (1) 30 Nosler (1) 30-378 WBY (2) 300 RUM (1) 7.62x39 (1) 8x57 JS (1) 8x57 Mauser (1) 8mm Rem Mag (1) 340 Wby (1) 338 RUM (1) 338 Lapua (1) 350 Rem Mag (1) 35 Whelen (1) 9.3x74R (2) 9.3x62 (1) 375 H&H (2) Box Qty. These are the best choices for shots inside 500 yards: Barnes TSX/TTSX, Swift Scirocco, Swift A-Frame, Nosler Partition, Nosler AccuBond, Nosler E-Tip, Woodleigh Weldcore, PPU soft point, Hornady GMX, Hornady Interbond, and North Fork. capacity 30 Nos. It will drop anything in North America, Europe, or Asia, and everything except the Big Five in Africa. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM—a shoot-off to find the best. 30 Nos. Thanks for your input and best of luck on future hunts! It has the lowest recoil in this class, is pinpoint accurate, and has more than enough punch for any rational hunting situation. Maybe even 1-7.5 twist. The .308 is one of the five best cartridges out there in my experience. Every rifle maker offers a model chambered in it and unlike the Weatherby, Nosler, and RUM, ammunition is available anywhere in the world. ADG = 101 gr. The .300 Win. I did some bench comparisons of the two. The 265 ABLR leaves the muzzle at 2775 fps and the big 300 is travelling at 2550 fps. If you don't expect to shoot beyond 300 yards, stay with common .30 calibers. The most powerful .30 caliber magnum until the .30-378 arrived, the .300 Weatherby has a cult-like following. Some cartridges were handicapped by the fact the ammunition companies don’t offer the heaviest bullet weights, rather they offer the most popular or common. Decisions Decisions. Cases were filled with a 6″ drop tube to the bottom of the neck. Norma = 95 gr. Looking Back! One point for every 10 yards MPBR beyond 200 yards and one point deducted for every 10 yards less. By Ron Spomer. and dropped a 950lb. Its efficient case produces near .300 Weatherby performance. out of an unbelted case, and fits into .30-’06 Sprg.-length actions. 300 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 30 Nosler Load Data; 30-378 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 300 Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data; 7.62x51mm NATO Load Data; 8x57mm JS Mauser Load Data; ... 300 RUM Cartridge Information. There are many magnum hunting cartridges, but those which use .30 caliber bullets are by far the most popular. at shoulder .488″ I'm just trying to cover my bases and not be wishing 2 years from now I had gone a different route. I'm thinking that a few years down the road I want a rifle in one of these chamberings. One point for every 25 yards beyond 200 yards for maximum effective range on medium and large game, respectively, and one point deducted for every 25 yards less than 200 yards. Too much can go wrong and the recovery of an animal shot at 100 yards can already be complicated at times. It comes close to the .30-378’s performance and generates recoil almost equal to a .375 H&H Magnum. Effective range in this test is the minimum impact energy recommended for a humane kill on medium game (1200 ft-lbs.) Obviously, I wanted to see what this new case would do, and if it was indeed a significant increase over the .300 Winchester. Belts do not bother me in the least. The 30 Nosler cartridge delivers better ballistics than the .300 Win. Designed by Roy Weatherby in 1959 but not released to the market until 1996, the .30-378 is based on the .378 Weatherby’s enormous case necked down to accept .308 caliber bullets. Mag.’s arrival in 1963. at shoulder .488″ 30 Nos. at shoulder .525″ 300 win Neck length … Yet, ask anyone who owns one and you’ll get a big, knowing smile from them. .300 Winchester Short Magnum (L), .300 Winchester Magnum (R). Bertram = 100 gr. (smaller caliber bullets have a tendency to deflect on bone, according to his 30yrs. Dry case w/ primer = 287.2 gr, 300 Win with H2O = 85.7 gr I'd take the .300 WSM over any of those three. With somewhere near .200” of freebore, the 300 Win mag is going to use 75-78 grains of H1000 most of the time, compared to 83-85 grains in … It's big 7mm but still dominated by the 7mm RUM. I think 300 Nosler and 300 RUM use a standard magnum bolt face, so you may have an easier time getting a receiver. Too inefficient for my taste, same with the .300 RUM. The Ultimate Guide to Tanning Wild Game Pelts and Hides. I personally shoot a 308 win. If there is any possibility a hunter might make a shot at less than 100 yards, a tough, controlled expansion bullet is required to prevent bullet disintegration when it hits a large animal at close range. Cartridge : .300 Rem Ultra Mag Bullet : .308, 215, Berger Hybr G7 #30423 Useable Case Capaci: 97.886 grain H2O = 6.356 cm³ What that will actually mean as far as muzzle velocity remains to be seen. Christensen Arms Ridgeline to MPR by LRO’s Daniel Brozovich, ” OCW ” Optimal Charge Weight load development by Ryan Furman, The Stukey’s Portable Shooting Bench Review by LRO’s Jeff Brozovich, Getting Started in PRS Style shooting. The main factor is to know the maximum and minimum anticipated impact velocities and the intended game, then select a bullet which is reliable under those conditions. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the 30-378 Weatherby Magnum, versus those of the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. the barrel was 26" plus 2" of muzzlebrake and accurate as could be but heavy for toting in the Rockies after elk. Case diameter is the same. These are rough measurements on unfired untouched brass. The recoil values are correct, however the 300 WBY properly and safely loaded in a 9.5 pounds rifle can go as high as 37 lbs. BC quantifies a bullet’s aerodynamic efficiency, and SD predicts relative ability to penetrate into a game animal; the larger each number, the better. 30 Caliber Bullets.30 Caliber Brass. 300 Win Mag: Nosler = 95 gr. Ballistically, the 30 Nosler is going to win most of the time at the expense of a relatively small amount of extra powder and barrel life. Factory ammo: 300 Win will get the nod here today. The .300 RUM is a more realistic choice than the .30-378 in a standard weight sporter rifle if a hunter needs this much power. These high energy/high cost calibers will probably force you to take up reloading if you don't already. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round … It is at its best when housed in a heavy (over 15 pounds) bench rest type long range rifle which will soak up its tremendous recoil forces. When first introduced in 1944, this cartridge developed a reputation for “excessive” recoil and unpredictable results on game. LJ Bonham is a semi-subsistence hunter, hunting magazine editor, and firearms enthusiast who lives in the Rocky Mountains. 30 Nos. Renowned for its accuracy, it won many target competitions and has taken every game animal on the planet at one time or another. To stabilize the really heavy 7mm bullets, 1-8 twist is a minimum. Using a fat, 404 Jeffery case 2.850" long with the 30-degree shoulder pushed well forward, Remington engineers were able to beat the case capacity of the 300 Wby. (which you can read all about on this 7mm vs. 300 Win. Still the most popular Fast Thirty in the world. The short magnums, such as the .300 Winchester Short Magnum, were excluded from this test since they just duplicate their larger cased cousins’ performance but in short-action rifles. They are max case volumes. Modern bullets correct this problem when the right bullet is selected for the appropriate application. It is a great cartridge but a near twin to the .300 Winchester Magnum. Mag. 300 RUM Premium Brass (50ct) Nosler® Brass is created to exact dimensional standards and tolerances, using quality materials for maximum accuracy and consistency potential while extending case life. Loads to these weights will surely be way over pressure!! 200 gr. Both with 215 seated bearing surface to bottom of case neck. That's a very rare twist rate in any 7mm. Use good bullets (I like 180+gr.) offers .041″ more neck to bearing surface length. The 180 grain tested produced less recoil. For the 300 win the only new case I had was a Lapua head stamp. I've never lost a deer with a 308 win. Then again, if I found a well-kept .300 H&H for reasonable money, I’d snatch it up and never once complain about scrounging for ammo. Mag. The .300 Ultra and .30-378 Weatherby super magnums are the hardest hitting of all the popular ultra-long range rifle cartridges. (Top to bottom) .308, .30-06, .300 Weatherby, .300 Rem Ultra Mag. The bullet was a 180gr. with H-1000 = 91.4 gr capacity with a 3.9 gr advantage, 300 win with RL-33 = 90 gr. Its only real advantage; it provides .300 RUM power in a standard length action. Case usable capacity with powder goes to the 30 Nosler with about 3.7 gr. Of those options .300 RUM all the way. Many experts recommend a minimum of 1500 ft-lbs impact energy for large game such as elk. Then you can go to a store and buy a box of ammo starting at $17 or less and keep things simple. The 30 Nosler is still too new to predict if it will stay on the market for long. I had the 30-378 and I got about 3450 fps with the 180 gr. Loads to these weights will surely be way over pressure!! Here are some measurements and comments about the 300 Win vs the 30 Nos. I've owned 6 Weatherbys over the years and many other rifles. If I was going after big bears' give me a 375H+H (or 458win.) Mag. 200 gr. This efficient new cartridge rivals the velocity and energy of the proven .338 Lapua Magnum while using significantly less powder. It punches way above its weight class, if, as you say, you use the right bullet and hit the right place. I wonder if you might need to go with a custom throat in the 30 Nosler or RUM to load the heavies way out? Introduced in 1999, the .300 RUM has become a favorite in the long range hunting subculture. The longest shot I've taken was 240yds. Specialized long range bullets were not used as they are unnecessary for most hunting situations. But that needs to be proven. It is not a good choice for light weight mountain rifles since the recoil would challenge even the most dedicated shooter. With a 215 Berger seated with bottom of bullet bearing surface at bottom of case neck. I have never understood the point of 28 Nosler. These are not charge weights!!! Trajectory in this test is defined as Maximum Point Blank Range (MPBR): the distance over which a bullet rises three inches above sight line and then drops three inches below to hit within a six-inch kill box. This was an up hill almost broad side shot that also took the spine out. It is in essence the .300 RUM shortened to fit into a standard length bolt-action. 30 Nos. I bought a 300 RUM and get 3333fps with the same 180gr. The necks are virtually the same length. These are not charge weights!!! More Hunting. Introduced in 2005, the Nosler cartridge brass line is ready to load. This content is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. The .30 caliber magnums are popular and for good reason, but bullet selection is vital to realize their full potential. Today, I have to give that nod to the .300 PRC. Accubond. The “Fast Thirties,” as famed gun writer Craig Boddington calls them, have always captivated hunters. Nosler’s factory ammunition is offered with the 225-grain AccuBond, the 265-grain AccuBond Long Range and their 300-grain Custom Competition. at shoulder .525″, 300 win Neck length = .252″ 7mm Magnum Showdown: 7mm Rem. vs. .28 Nosler vs. 7mm RUM. The .30 cal. case OAL = 2.544″ 300 Win at Web = .506″ 30 Nos. Nosler’s case will maintain that 250-275 fps gain over the Winchester case, in spite of sharing the same length. They give you extra range and power--if you can handle the recoil. 200 gr. capacity with a 3.5 gr advantage. The .26 Nosler is based on the excellent beltless .404 Jeffery case—blown out to increase case capacity—with a rebated rim, yet shortened to 2.590″ so it will run in a standard .30-06-length action, offering a case capacity of 93.5 grains of water. Its only real advantage; it provides .300 RUM power in a standard length action. The 30 looks interesting and according to case capacity it doesn't appear to have more room in the cartridge to be labeled a barrel burner. 30 Nos OAL (case head to bullet tip) = 3.595″, 300 Win case head to bullet O-give with comparator = 2.730″ with 300gr. case head to bullet O=give with comparator = 2.635″. .30 Caliber Magnum Virtual Shootout Results. Build the perfect load has long been the motto of handloaders loyal to Nosler brand bullets–and was the sole reason we developed Nosler® cartridge brass. 180 gr. I deviated from easily available calibers when I tried WSM. 30 Nos. The author analyzed six .30 caliber magnum cartridges (.300 H&H Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 Weatherby, .300 Remington Ultra Mag., .30 Nosler, and .30-378 Weatherby) for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. 30 Nosler: Nosler = 99 gr. 30 NOSLER VS. 300 WIN MAG. Neck Length = .293″. Mag. I still like magnums though, especially in the wide-open West. The six inch kill box used in this test is a better average size for both medium and large game. It is also used by military and police snipers. While 180 grain projectiles are by far the most popular, 200 – 220 grain bullets are ideal for large animals such as elk, moose, and the big bears—if one can tolerate the recoil. By today’s standards, the venerable .300 H&H seems tame, even underpowered. Four of them being 300 WBY and I'm quite familiar with the cartridge. AccuBond (.588 BC/.301 SD) at 3150 fps. The 30 Nosler shares the same overall cartridge length (3.340") as the 26 Nosler and the 28 Nosler which allows it to be chambered in standard-length action firearms. You'll need a lapua mag boltlface and heavy duty receiver for 300 NM. It is not a good choice for light weight mountain rifles since the recoil would challenge even the most dedicated shooter. 308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 Remington Ultra Magnum. Unless one is accompanied by a good number of friends, or shooting in very open terrain where visibility is excellent...I am of the opinion that extreme shots at game are to be avoided. also easier to locate for sure. 30-338 Lapua, you couldn't give me that one. For shots well beyond 500 yards, consider the Nosler AccuBond LR, Swift Scirocco, Berger, Hornady ELD-X, Hornady SST, or Sierra Game King. Mag., .30-06 Springfield. Case life and barrel life are expected to be short for both the .300 Ultra and the .30-378 because of the high velocity and the great amount of … Muzzle velocities are the nominal industry standard for the tested bullet weight in each caliber. My personal choice? CAUTION:!!!! While .30 caliber bullets come in a wide variety, this vast selection presents some challenges when it comes to the Fast Thirties. Thank you for a well researched and well written article ! 30 Nosler may be an advantage for some with a shorter mag box length by .095″ However I have not had issues in a long action loading to the lands with a 300 win with these bullets. The "Fast Thirties" will deliver it to 650 yards, and beyond. Measurements: 300 win case OAL = 2.606″ 30 Nos. Also has Nosler brass which is much more expensive. This is perhaps the closest to perfect any Fast Thirty gets. Based on its bigger brother, the .375 H&H’s case, and introduced in 1925, the .300 H&H set the standard for long range rifle cartridges until the .300 Win. It’s just a good, balanced cartridge which works, doesn’t hit the shooter like a ball peen hammer, and is available on any gun store shelf anywhere in the world. (L-R) .30-378 Weatherby, .300 Weatherby, .30-06. Mag. Your view of the 30 Nosler is correct, although it is definitely a superb cartridge, time will tell if it will take off as well as the others. 300 PRC: Bertram = 89 gr. I know some very tough brass is available for the 300 win. Left to right: 30 Nosler, .300 Win. As long as it is fed an appropriate bullet, it will do anything a reasonable hunter could ask from a hunting cartridge, and with less powder and recoil. But I would hope with good strong brass and the correct powder the 30 Nos. But if you are one that does not like belted cases the 30 Nos. Not a bad thing unless one hates the thought of becoming a ballistic nerd. I agree with your .375 H&H choice for bear (one of those top five I just mentioned). 30 Nos. They will poleaxe anything they hit as long as the bullet is placed in the animal’s vitals, and they’ll do it at amazing ranges. Mag. The newest Fast Thirty, the 30 Nosler appeared in 2016. The author acknowledges hand loaders can achieve much better performance in many instances. 30 nosler case capacity is 89.8 gr h2o and 300 win is 93.8 in h2o according to Wikipedia. might see 3075 to 3100. ... from the .30-06 through to the .300 RUM and .30-378. Like Bertram and RWS. Powder burn rate and barrel length will come into play here. AccuBond at 2750 fps. They have the powder capacity to launch them at impressive velocities and thus use those bullets’ high BC and SD advantages. Hornady .300 PRC (left) and 30 Nosler 30 Nosler vs. Hornady .300 PRC. AB and same 26" plus 2"muzzlebrake barrel. bullets. 30 Nos. 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM is much more interesting question. All four of Nosler's Cartridges, the 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler, 30 Nosler, and 33 Nosler, are based on the same .300 … The larger 300s, Rum and 30-378 will only provide more power at extreme long range. Then also H2O. Compare these rounds in the charts below. 300 win with RL-33 = 90 gr. Case head to bottom of shoulder = 2.112″ 300 Win. Both cases were new unfired. This could easily level the field for velocity and could allow the 300 win to excel. with RL-33 = 93.5 gr. Not me. H2O to the top of the case mouth. I use two powders, H-1000 and RL 33. MPBR for a 300 Weatherby is 340 yards (150 gr) and 320 yards with 180 grain bullets. Detailed performance figures are summarized in the table at the article’s end. AccuBond (.507 BC/.271 SD) at 3200 fps. The 30 Nosler eclipses the velocity of the 300 Weatherby, headspaces of the shoulder like a 300 RUM, has an efficient powder column like that of the 300 WSM and its in the same standard length action of a 300 W… They are max case volumes. Shop Nosler Products. That is true at both ends, of course! Introduced in 2016, the 30 Nosler meets the velocity of the .300 Weatherby, headspaces on the shoulder like a .300 RUM, has an efficient powder column like the .300 WSM and fits in the same standard-length action of a .300 Win. Strictly for a hunting rifle and nothing else I take a Weatherby mk 5 every time and I always have 24" light weight barrels no matter what caliber they are,Weatherby's have the strongest actions on earth tested well past 210,000 psi and held together,the stock design is such as to tame recoil and still be a natural pointer,lots of freebore makes seating bullets out where they need to be a snap,superior gas venting in case of a rupture.Ammo available everywhere,Smoothest push feed bolt action south of a Mannlicher Shoenaure. The outfitter said he would rather see a 308 in camp that a 7mm mag. Imagine a bullet arcing through a six-inch diameter pipe for a certain distance. A better projectile for the .300 RUM, is Nosler’s 200 grain Accubond. I personally don't consider extreme long range fair to the game. They are all good, all have their special appeal, but there is often a quality to quantity and quantity is what the .300 Winchester Magnum has. There are some darn good factory offerings and many of them. Either a long range bullet fired up close, or a close range one used too far away can cause ineffective wounds and result in lost game. 30 Nos. All great performing cartridges-all uncommon except the 300 win mag. But this was good because I have found that the case capacity of the Lapua to be very close to WW and RP and some others. and shoot strait. Consult a loading manual for starting charges and work up safely.!!! As a general rule, more than 15 ft-lbsf is considered enough recoil to affect most shooters’ accuracy. The 300 Win Mag is right around where you put it but it can also safely climb to 30 and 31 pounds of recoil. 300 Win on our Left, 30 Nos. Case head to bottom of shoulder = 2.112″, 300 Win. of guiding). So here are the tested case capacities from Ryan. It is not an efficient cartridge, but it is perhaps the best choice for shots on tough animals such as elk and moose beyond 700 yards. Recoil calculations were based on a 9.5 pound rifle weight. They combine flat trajectories with tremendous down-range power. The 300 PRC has a 30 deg shoulder, the 30 Nosler has a 35 deg shoulder. AND, the Nosler 33 fits in a standard, long action receiver. The Series. I obtained 50 pieces of 30 Nosler brass from Nosler itself and headed to the reloading bench. One point for each ft-lbsf recoil less than 15, and one point deducted for every ft-lbsf greater than 15. Sharing the same parent case as the 26 and 28 Nosler cartridges, the 30 Nosler takes all the best attributes of currently available 30 magnums and combines them all in one cartridge. It is no longer necessary to maximize flat trajectory to trump distance. 30 Nos. With the right bullet, the .30-378 approaches the .338 Lapua, and bullet choice is critical. 30 Nos. This diagram illustrates MPBR for a ten inch kill box which is applicable for large game. 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